Buildertrend insights: Exploring updates that ensure customer success

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Today on “The Building Code,” Zach and Charley are going guestless to talk about a couple topics they’re truly passionate about. They’re bringing listeners the inside scoop on some exciting internal changes that’ll positively impact the success of our customers and their businesses. In Charley’s words, “We want to make sure we’re not just a product that people use, but a partner for business growth and development.”

Listen to the full episode to hear more about our new Buildertrend Business Insights that’ll help builders make smarter business decisions. We’ve also made changes to the structure of our customer success team to better serve our users and provide the best experience possible.

What are some of the things we’re doing within customer success to improve the customer experience?

Zach: “The biggest change is trying to eliminate some of our touch points. We’ve really tried to get back to single ownership of accounts. So, at the very least, even if I have to bring someone else in who is a specialist, you’ll have a consistent relationship, which is very important. They can help you navigate all our resources. We’ve been spending time trying to define the exact steps that builders need to do to be successful and visualizing that to them through a success plan and other tools. And we’ve heard a ton of positive feedback about this from our customers as well.”

Charley: “And I think a shift that we’ve had, not just in the CS department, but the company as a whole is really learning from those values and the customer-centric approach and applying it across our entire business. So, our product team, for instance, is doing what they call customer ride-alongs where they actually go out to the job site and meet with our customers. They see how they’re using the product, what pain points they have and ensure that we’re building not just for the sake of building, but we’re actually building to solve problems for our customers.”

What is Buildertrend Business Insights and how will it help builders make better business decisions?

Charley: “We learned that everyone runs their business differently, and everyone has different areas they want to track to ensure their business is performing successfully. So, what we wanted to do was take our bespoke custom reporting and scale it, so everyone has access to their data, and everyone can build their own custom reports and tailor it to their specific use cases. This year, we formally launched Buildertrend Business Insights, which is a one-stop shop for reporting and understanding at a granular level how your business is running. They come as standard reports out of the box, but the magic really happens when customers tailor these specifically to their business.”

Zach: “In order to make good business decisions, you have to proactively look for answers. And that’s the thing I’m really excited about because I would go to these businesses, and I would ask them questions about, ‘What are your KPIs?’ And they’re like, ‘I don’t know how to set them. I don’t know what they should be.’ And now, for us to be able to say, ‘Well, here’s what we created for you to give you those standards, and we can tweak it to your processes.’ Or maybe you already have BI tools that you’re using, and you just want the Buildertrend data, we can now provide different offerings to meet customers where they’re at.”

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Transcript

Zach Wojtowicz:

What’s up everybody? Hi, I’m Zach Wojtowicz.

Charley Burtwistle:

And I’m Charley Burtwistle.

Zach Wojtowicz:

And today Charley mocks me in the intro.

Charley Burtwistle:

I was just trying to match your voice inflection that makes sure that we’re aligned and sound like a cohesive unit here.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Why is that?

Charley Burtwistle:

Because we are aligned and we are a cohesive unit.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Is there some reason that today, especially, you want to make sure we’re cohesive and aligned?

Charley Burtwistle:

Well, today actually, we have maybe our biggest guest ever in Zach Wojtowicz, director of CS, I think is your title now.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Wait, what are you talking about? What do you mean?

Charley Burtwistle:

We do not have any external guests for this episode today. It is just going to be Zach and I talking about some changes here internally at Buildertrend. A couple of very, very exciting things, some new CS processes, CS customer success for those listening, really focused on the customer experience. We also have some exciting new value added services and additional things that people can sign up for outside of our core subscription that we’re going to cover, Buildertrend Business Insights that we’re very excited about. So this is more of a catch-up episode. We’ve been doing a ton of hard work and when I say we, I mean you have been doing a ton of hard work here at Buildertrend to ensure that our customers are getting the most value out of the product that they can, and we want to highlight that today in our episode.

Zach Wojtowicz:

That’s right. It’s finally happening. They’re letting us off the leash. We just get 20 to 30 minutes to talk about anything we want to talk about, Charley. How are you feeling? You’ve been asking for this for a while.

Charley Burtwistle:

Yeah, I’m feeling great. I think that today’s episode is going to be exciting, not just for us to get to talk about things that we’re passionate about, but for our customers. We’re not just doing it because we want to talk unhinged for 20 minutes. We’re talking about it because for our current listeners, if you’re current customer, there’s tons of things that you can be taking advantage of that Buildertrend is offering, and we want to make sure that everyone is aware of that. And if you’re not a current customer, I think it’ll really speak to what does signing up for Buildertrend look like. How do you ensure that you’re finding value from our product and applying it across your business? We want to make sure that we’re not just a product that people use, but a partner for business growth and development across all of our customers. So, it should be exciting. I’m fired up. Are you fired up?

Zach Wojtowicz:

This is all I’ve ever wanted to just get to talk about my team and my department and all the wonderful things that we’re bringing to our customers. It’s a dream come true, honestly.

Charley Burtwistle:

Yeah. I know Zach never shuts up about …

Zach Wojtowicz:

That’s true.

Charley Burtwistle:

… his love for customer success and his love for our customers. So, today we are just going to record the way Zach normally talks, but on a microphone.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Get ready. That’s right.

Charley Burtwistle:

Let’s dig in.

Zach Wojtowicz:

That’s right.

Charley Burtwistle:

I think the first thing that we want to kind of cover are some of the recent changes that we’ve made in the customer success department.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Yeah. It’s kind of an interesting story because the evolution of the way that we work with our customers has always had a core component to it. When someone signs up for Buildertrend, of course you’re going to have someone who’s going to be there to help you learn the software. That’s the number one thing you read about good customer experience is that you have to bring value to your customers in a way that they expect. And then you got to find other ways to find value that they don’t expect. So, you have to deliver on their expectations, but to continue to work with them and grow them and build that long-term trust and relationship. You also have to bring … That little ping in the background. Of course, when I’m talking, we’ve got the Outlook. It’s a working episode, it’s like a working lunch. It’s a working episode.

You have to build that relationship through that delivery. And Buildertrend, our backbone in the customer success department has been those relationships. Our current chief operating officer, Scott Siegert, he was our first customer success manager is what they were called, and they were there to teach people how to use the software. And it’s very natural when you grow over time, you have to start to specialize different things because humans turns out can’t really do everything, can’t answer support questions all day, can’t train customers all day, can’t have high-level business decisions all day. It becomes really difficult, these are down to different skills. If you’re in support, you’re a little more solutioning. You’re trying to solve problems, trying to get answers to questions, you’re a little more why isn’t it working the way I thought it would work? Solving those problems and other things that come with running a software company. If you are a great teacher, you need to be able to communicate in a way that makes sense using analogies or tying concepts together.

You need to have that teacher mindset, which is, I’m growing your skills and sometimes that requires holding you accountable. And then the other side, really great people who manage accounts, who are able to push customers to their direction takes a different point of view, different skillset. And so, Buildertrend from the beginning was very much like, we’re just going to teach you how to use the software. And over time, our department customer success has grown tremendously because that was what was required as we acquired more customers. It was harder to service and have a person who had a number of accounts tied in their name and be there for all of them. So, that recipe has gone through a lot of different hands. Scott Siegert, Eric Fischer, Mike Dukich, people that are well known inside the walls of Buildertrend, legends in their own right in a lot of different ways.

And even at my level as a director, it is not just me, it’s Eric Scherer, it’s Anthony Peterson, it’s Jordan Swanson, it’s Taylor Ross, it’s Dan Lipari. We work together and we look at these different areas to service our customers, and we try to think of the best way of like, what do customers need to be successful? And that comes in a lot of the shapes and forms. So, it’s never really done. I would still say we’re always trying to innovate that motion. My department is actually an industry. You can go work at other tech companies as customer success professionals where you would’ve to learn that industry. You could go to legal tech, you could go to educational tech, you could go to construction tech, you could go to any vertical of industry and put tech at the end, there’s a CSM who’s there to try and help you get more value out of the software. So, what have we been working on is probably the follow-up question I should address after I … This is why they’re like, “Don’t let Zach talk. ‘Cause he’s always like-“

Charley Burtwistle:

No, I think that was great background and I think something that you hit on that may seem obvious on the outside looking in, but it’s really, really hard to implement, what your team has been driving at for years now is teaching someone how to use the product as one problem and a problem that needs to be solved. But teaching them how to use it for their business is a harder problem and requires kind of that relationship and that back and forth and the change management process of who are you onboarding and what features are you onboarding them and how are you doing things today and really teaching them and training them on the value of Buildertrend, not just Buildertrend as a whole. And it’s harder to do, and it’s a larger problem to tackle and I think that’s really … I’ll let you speak for yourself, but some of the changes that you’ve been making is really focused on that area specifically.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Exactly. And Buildertrend’s a business, too. So, there’s only so many resources we can acquire in our own department in order to achieve those outcomes. So we have to be really careful about do we over index and just teaching the product? Or if we don’t do that enough and we’re just trying to show customers value, maybe they don’t know the product well enough and then they never actually use a good percentage of it. So it’s an interwoven, ever-changing dynamic, Zach doesn’t sleep a lot at night problem trying to figure out what’s the best way to give customers what they need really and where they’re at in their own business and journey. But it’s really exciting because we always get to try new things.

There’s always new innovations, new technology even that we use to try and service our customers better. We’ve invested a lot in our digital learning. I can give some stats of our Buildertrend Learning Academy. We had 53,000 enrollments in 2023. When we launched BLA in 2021, we did 6,000. So in three years we’ve increased the traffic there. And the number one or the times that people are consuming that information is from 5:00 PM to 3:00 AM. So, someone out there is having a late night …

Charley Burtwistle:

Grinding.

Zach Wojtowicz:

… little Buildertrend videos and then shout out to you if you’re “The Building Code” listener, I’ll send you a hat.

Charley Burtwistle:

Well, I think that speaks to, and we talked about it, we talked about it a ton, we talked about in the last episode that recorded, is just being really, really intentional around where you want your business to go and do you want to continue to improve or do you want to continue where you’re currently at. And, obviously, you can hop on with a fantastic Buildertrend coach and they can teach you a one-on-one lesson and we’re always going to have that support. But there’s also customers out there, and I shouldn’t say customers, there’s just builders. There’s people out there that are continuing to push forward, continuing to say, “We can run our business better, we can operate more efficiently, we can get stuff done faster, we can stay under budget better.” All these different things that businesses are trying to accomplish as a whole. But it does take that intentional thought and focusing on improving your business, not just the output of your business.

Zach Wojtowicz:

100%. And Buildertrend is just a part of that. I mean that’s what customer centricity really means. It’s removing my department as the thing. It’s putting the customer at the center of it and asking what does that customer need, and we’re just part of it. They need a solution in the product. They need additional information about what’s happening with their business. They need someone to come in and actually set up processes for them, right?

Charley Burtwistle:

Right.

Zach Wojtowicz:

They need an accounting platform, all these things. And that ecosystem of business ownership is really messy. My hope of our CS team is that we help reduce the friction of trying to tie those all of these things together. So, that is the indirect value. We work with someone at Buildertrend because they talk to contractors all day. They can understand the problems of the construction vertical. They could say, “Hey, I know a builder that already did this independent of the software, here’s how they handled it and here’s how we use Buildertrend to facilitate that. Does that make sense to you?” And a lot of times customers are like, “I would’ve never thought of that perspective.” And that’s the magic of customer success is that I can bring something that you didn’t know in that ecosystem and put you at the heart of it and said, “Here’s actually how my own customers are doing this. Does that work for you?”

Charley Burtwistle:

Yeah.

Zach Wojtowicz:

And that’s been the biggest change is trying to get to that moment sooner by eliminating some of our touch points away from you’re going to meet this person and they’re going to talk about this and you’re going to meet this person and you’re going to talk about this. We’ve really tried to get back to single ownership of the account. So, at the very least, even if I have to go to the ecosystem and I have to grab additional variables to bring someone else in who is a specialist, you’ll have a consistent relationship, which is very important, they can help you navigate all of our resources. Or maybe they are booked out a week, but I can get you to a BLA course, I can get you a webinar, I can get you to the specialist who is a little more available, but at least you have that person who’s got your back.

And at the very least, it’s not that we weren’t trying to do that before. It’s just redoubling down on the heart of great customer success management, which is giving them an answer and if not finding a way to get it for them.

Charley Burtwistle:

Well, I think the best thing about Buildertrend is the worst thing about Buildertrend is it is a very, very large, all-encompassing platform.

Zach Wojtowicz:

It’s a double-edged sword.

Charley Burtwistle:

It is a double-edged sword. You can do everything from clocking in with your field crew to very, very in-depth selection processes and estimating. And those require very, very different skill sets. So, trying to train or onboard or bring value to everything at once isn’t necessarily the easiest and quickest way to adopt a platform and to build that solution for your business. So, how can we streamline exactly what you’re trying to do and get you to that value? I think we’re going to use the word value a lot.

Zach Wojtowicz:

A lot of value.

Charley Burtwistle:

A lot of value in the quickest, easiest motion possible. That’s the crux of it all.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Yeah. And that’s the inherent value of that is we’re saving you time and time at the end of the day is something that is a currency and how you actually go about living your life. So, if at the very least we can get you there faster that is creating value for you, so that you’re able to do other things like bring on a new customer for yourself, which creates money, value, or you have time to spend with your family, that matters, too. And all those things are kind of interconnected and that’s my favorite part of working with customers is it’s not a matter of if it happens, it’s how much does it happen in a given week that our team gets a ton of praise from our customers. And I think that is a callback to our industry is very relationship based. They work with sub trades that are like family.

We’ve had other podcast episodes where they talk about that. They’re not just people we work with, these are people we care about. And that’s my hope is that customers understand that that’s what we want to be a part of for their businesses as well because it is bigger than just like we’re a software vendor that you run your business through. And so, with that, another thing we’ve really tried to hone in on is the early parts of that onboarding period. You mentioned that. And that is the other thing is as customers grow and their businesses change and we want them have adequate coverage to be able to continue those relationships, and those are definitely part of it, but if we can get you there faster to where you are using the software, that’s also value. And so, we’ve spent a lot of our resources to try and visualize more clearly the plan up front and that you’re touching on that the implementation skill and the things that go with that.

We’ve been really trying to hammer that with the customers that we’ve done this before, but we recognize that maybe we weren’t always clear with the customer what that endpoint really looks like. And so, we’ve been spending time trying to define the exact steps that you need to do to be successful and visualizing that to them through a success plan and other tools that we use to try and say to the customer, “We’ve got your back. We know that we can move faster or slower based on you, the business owner who’s committed to the implementation of the software change.” And we’ve heard a ton of positive about this from our customers as well, that having that unknown of how long is it going to take or what exactly is the game plan and us kind of asserting, saying, “This is what our recommended path is,” still something we’re trying to actively define to make it better and better to reduce the friction of getting data in and all the things that go along with making sure customers can use the software.

But for new customers that come to Buildertrend, we want to get to the relationship faster. And if we can get you onboarded quicker, that exciting stuff really speeds that up.

Charley Burtwistle:

Well, here’s an analogy I’m thinking of just live in my head, so it may not be that good of one, but for example.

Zach Wojtowicz:

I’ll let you know.

Charley Burtwistle:

Yeah.

Zach Wojtowicz:

As the king of analogies, obviously.

Charley Burtwistle:

Right. If we were a custom home builder and we were saying, “We are going to build you this house,” and just showed the end version of what the house looks like, that does a horrible job of setting expectations of, hey, guess what? First you’re going to have to do a rough grade, then you’re going to have to pour foundation, then you’re going to have to do the framing. And those aren’t necessarily sexy steps. And the homeowner could be like, “Well, I really want to get to picking my countertops.”

Zach Wojtowicz:

“When do I get my …”

Charley Burtwistle:

And “When are my windows and my exterior painting and stuff like that coming?” But you have to understand that there is work to be done before we can get to those other things. So, how do we do estimating? How do we do our takeoffs inside of Buildertrend, some of those sexier features. It’s like it requires you importing all your cost codes. It requires you uploading all of your contacts into the system and ensuring that you have everything set up for success to build off of that. And I think just being transparent and straightforward from the start, as you guys were talking about during the onboarding process of saying not just we have to do these things, but this is why we have to do those things has been a large shift over the past year or so.

Zach Wojtowicz:

And I think that’s been one of the biggest identity …

Charley Burtwistle:

Well, hold on. How was my analogy?

Zach Wojtowicz:

Oh, sorry. Actually really good. Credit where credit’s due. I like it.

Charley Burtwistle:

Thank you.

Zach Wojtowicz:

The contractor pros would understand that as you got to do the pre-construction first before you move into production and then you move into close out. So, that’s where we’ve missed. As Buildertrend has grown, and it’s natural for businesses as you grow, things move fast. When you move fast, you start to get away from sometimes the stuff that’s obvious probably should have been telling the customer, “I’m having you do this to show you why, but you just have to trust me.” And I think as long as you explain to customers the context of what you’re trying to do, most people are like, “Oh, that makes sense.”

Charley Burtwistle:

Right.

Zach Wojtowicz:

And that’s what we’re really trying to get to as a standardization around that for new customers. And it’s not unusual, customers who have been with us for a long time, they use three or four features and they never really kept going. And why is that? Because we never really contextualized that. We’re just at this point, but we want to get to this point and to do that X, Y, Z, and it’s all interconnected. Going back to the beginning, someone pushing you forward to keep going is also just as important.

Charley Burtwistle:

And having a point of view on how to get there, is being the subject matter experts. I mean, our account managers, they have what, 500?

Zach Wojtowicz:

That’s one of the things we’re trying to work on is getting them to closer to 300, 250 accounts, so that they have the ability to onboard new customers and service their backend customers.

Charley Burtwistle:

Even 250 though a ton of examples of success that they’ve seen, similar type builders, whether you’re a custom home builder or a framer or whatever that may be of this is how I’ve seen other people have success and being that point of view of this is the route that you should take to ultimately get there and get there as fast as possible.

Zach Wojtowicz:

So, we’re never really done. We’re trying to balance our legacy customer base and our new customer base. Ideally, that transition can feel like we’re making a lot of changes behind the scenes. But if there’s one thing I can promise as a leader in my department is we want to make sure you always have someone who can at least get you to where you want to go and can game plan with you. And that commitment is a tried and true part of being a great customer success.

Charley Burtwistle:

Yeah, I mean the definition is in the name, the customer success department, that end all be all value that they offer is ensuring success for our customers.

Zach Wojtowicz:

And that’s the nuance. So, it’s interesting because a lot of people, not that anybody asks this question, but again, we’re going to put this out in the ether, and I’m curious to see what people think is customer success is a relatively new concept. It didn’t exist. Customer services exist for a long time.

Charley Burtwistle:

Customer support.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Customer support, but customer success is proactively telling customers, “Now, you should go do this.” And that is the difference. Not playing defense, playing offense in your analogy.

Charley Burtwistle:

Yeah.

Zach Wojtowicz:

And that’s what’s exciting is there’s always new stuff because it is new, it is truly the leaders I mentioned they’re learning from other tech companies. I think we do a pretty great job, and I think people could learn from what we do, but that’s what’s really exciting is it brings a ton of new opportunities, new ideas to our customers. I’ll just tell the story. I went to a vendor conference where I was talking about our CS team, about how I grew our digital learning platform, and one of Buildertrend’s customers was in the audience, and she came up to me and she’s like, “I work for a remodeler. I also do this other thing. This is a tech conference, but I used Buildertrend and two, three years ago I was really frustrated with the way you guys handled your customer experience. It just didn’t make sense. And the changes you’ve been making makes a world of difference.”

And I was like, we’re on the right track. And it was one example, but it felt really good. And so, if our CS team is listening, it is, I think, worth what we’ve gone through from a change management of our own business in order to be there for our customers. And if you’re a listener out there and you haven’t talked to your account manager in a while, I really would encourage you to reach out to them and start that relationship.

Charley Burtwistle:

Give them a ring. And I think a shift that we’ve had, not just in the CS department, but the company as a whole is really learning from those values and the customer-centric approach that our CS team takes and applying it across our entire business. So, our product team, for instance, is doing what they call customer ride-alongs where they actually go out to the job site and meet with our customers, see how they’re using the product, what pain points they have, and ensuring that we’re building not just for the sake of building, but we’re actually building to solve problems for our customers.

Zach Wojtowicz:

That’s right.

Charley Burtwistle:

Our sales team is doing a fantastic job of being less of an acquisition machine and signing up anybody and everybody and getting a credit card swipe and onto the next one to value selling of these are the problems that Buildertrend can solve and setting those expectations the right way. So when they get onto the CS floor, they’re speaking the same message, and it’s not just, “Well, I had a pushy sales guy who got me to sign up for this. They’re a really good sales guy, and now I’m not really sure what to do.” It’s taking that customer-centric approach across the entire landscape of Buildertrend, ensuring that we’re all speaking the same message and ensuring that the only thing that we’re focused on is our customers.

Zach Wojtowicz:

The other thing we wanted to talk about today, which part of our jobs and customer success is to bring you innovation and bringing new things. And we’ve been working on a project that you are directly involved with for quite some time. And that’s what’s exciting is once the magic happens and you have that trust and relationship, it becomes really natural to say, “Well, what else can Buildertrend do for us?” And that’s when it’s like, well, we’ve been working on this other thing that we’re really excited about, and it’s called Buildertrend Business Insights.

Charley Burtwistle:

Heck, yeah. And I want to set the record straight. I was involved early and I was also involved when it wasn’t very successful. Huge shout out …

Zach Wojtowicz:

That’s what we call incubation.

Charley Burtwistle:

Yeah, zero to one, huge shout out to Brett Jones, Jake Bron, Scott Dobberpuhl.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Eric Scherer.

Charley Burtwistle:

Eric Scherer, Eric Fischer, Adam Brehm, a ton of people that took kind of this initial wild idea and actually got it to a scalable approach. So, to give you a little background, this was probably three years ago, we had a customer here at Buildertrend University. It was actually, I can’t remember his name, but he was at Lexar Homes up in Seattle, a good friend of the pod, good friend of Buildertrend.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Matt.

Charley Burtwistle:

And he was like, “Look, I have five or six …” Probably what, 30 different franchises?

Zach Wojtowicz:

Yeah, it’s upwards of 30.

Charley Burtwistle:

“I want to understand how they’re all utilizing the platform and ensure that I can hold them accountable.” And Fisch pulled me into a room post BTU, post a couple of beers. It was like, “Well, Charley is a data scientist here. He could just pull all that data right now.” And so just live in the conference room. I was like, “Here’s how all your franchises are performing.” He’s like, “What do I have to pay to get this insight?” So, that’s how it started, is really just ensuring that our customers have insight into not just how they’re using Buildertrend, but how their business is performing. So, we spun up this initiative called customer reporting, and we got maybe 30 or so people on it, which is really just bespoke dashboards built directly for our customers, showing them how their business is performing. We have some reports, standard reports inside of Buildertrend that everyone has access to.

But what we learned is everyone runs their business differently and everyone has different areas of things that they want to monitor and track to ensure that their business is performing successfully. And that can be agnostic of how they’re using Buildertrend or how they’re building homes or how they’re selling leads. So, really what we wanted to do was take that bespoke custom reporting that we were doing and scale it so that everyone has access to their data, and everyone can build their own custom reports and really tailor it toward their specific use cases. So, just recently this year, so we’re three months in right now, we launched formally Buildertrend Business Insights, which is a one-stop shop for reporting and understanding at a level of granularity that we’ve never had before, how your business is running. They come as standard reports out of the box, we have lead management, we have a cashflow report, we have a cashflow forecast.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Profitability.

Charley Burtwistle:

Profitability, warranty reports, things like that.

Zach Wojtowicz:

We worked with customers to determine which ones were relevant-

Charley Burtwistle:

Exactly.

Zach Wojtowicz:

… to construction. So, your customer reporting, I don’t want you to say you learned from it. And that’s what we went and built.

Charley Burtwistle:

Exactly. What we built as the out of the box reports. But the magic really, really happens is our customers have the ability to tailor these specifically to their business. So, what we call is a self-service dashboard where if you want to view something slightly differently, you can make that change yourself. If you want to bring in custom fields that you’re utilizing inside a Buildertrend group things differently. If you want a group by project manager or job type or region, if you’re working multiple locations, you can do that and make it purely your own.

But the cool thing too, and we talk about the customer success team, the customer-centric approach is we have account managers that can do the same thing that you’re talking about, how to utilize Buildertrend, give that point of view of how to utilize reporting. What metrics should you be tracking? How should you monitor this? What is success? What are other companies doing? What are other benchmarks that companies have? And ensuring that you know what to look for because that’s oftentimes the hardest question is where is the problem? What is the solution? How do I ensure that I have a pulse on my business, so that I’m not caught off guard with surprises anymore?

Zach Wojtowicz:

And I’m really curious, I told the Matt Hollis story, and Lexar and their major friends of the pod and Buildertrend. I’m curious for you as a data expert, someone who has been essential in Buildertrend success of getting our data. How do you translate that to a smaller business? Is there benefits to having these insights when you’re new or if you’re kind of struggling, why would someone want this product to help with their Buildertrend account?

Charley Burtwistle:

So, the way you phrased that is actually really interesting. So, I’m going to divide it into two questions.

Zach Wojtowicz:

What do you mean actually? As if I’m unable to … No, I’m just kidding.

Charley Burtwistle:

Well, I think, let me start with the boring part first is something that we’re really excited about in Buildertrend Business Insights is it gives a tangible output for using the entire product. So, a lot of times, as you were talking through, people have only adopted two or three or four features, and it’s why would I start using selections? Why would I start using our estimating feature? Well, the cool thing about Buildertrend Business Insights is it pulls from all the data inside of Buildertrend. So, as you utilize and adopt more features, you unlock and have visibility into more insights. So, if you want to understand how your lead management and presale process is performing, if you start utilizing that feature, it automatically starts to populate inside of your reports. So, that’s one really unintended consequence, is this a really good reward for utilizing more …

Zach Wojtowicz:

The carrot.

Charley Burtwistle:

… the carrot, for utilizing more of the product and implementing it across your business. Now, the second part of your question is why is it valuable? I think really you don’t know what you don’t know, oftentimes, and it’s applicable across the construction industry as well as across Buildertrend. So, I was the first data scientist at Buildertrend, and huge shout out to Dan, Steve, and Jeff for growing the business the way they did without an insights department. But as you start to have access to this data, it uncovers a lot of ugly truths from time to time. So, I think what having visibility into these reports through Buildertrend Business Insights does is, one, ensures that you’re operating as efficiently as possible, and you know roadblocks and areas of improvement before it’s too late and you can be proactive in running your business. And two, it allows you to set goals and benchmarks on how you want to grow. Everyone says they want to grow or they want to be more efficient, or they want to reduce costs.

How do you measure that without having a report or a KPI or a metric or whatever buzzword you want to say, to have a goal in mind? So, just goal setting is, hey, I want to reduce our lead to close time, or I want to reduce our pre-construction process, or I want to reduce the number of warranty follow-ups that we have to apply across our different projects as well. It’s like this is going to allow you to set those goals and monitor the metrics and success of implementing those different processes and then ultimately celebrate the success of those achievements. And so, just the goal setting and the monitoring is huge from a … If people have a growth mindset and want to improve on those things, you have to be able to measure it.

Zach Wojtowicz:

Which we talk about that a lot here on the Building Code, in order to make good business decisions, you have to proactively look for answers. And I think that’s for me, the thing I’m really excited about, because I would go to these businesses and I would ask them questions about, “Well, what are your KPIs?” And they’re like, “I don’t know how to set them. I don’t know what they should be.” And now for us to be able to say, “Well, here’s what the industry working with customers, we created for you to give you those standards, we can tweak it to your processes and what you can do with the different options that we offer.” Or maybe you already have BI tools that you’re using that you just want the Buildertrend data, we can now provide different offerings to meet customers where they’re at.

Whether you’re getting started with Buildertrend and you need a reason to keep going and onboard quicker, so you can get to the fun stuff, or you’re a really mature Buildertrend user that just wants more out of what the system can provide, because you know there’s great insights outside of even just budgeting. That’s what this is all about, and that’s what customer success is all about, is bringing that value to customers and saying, “This is a really great opportunity for you to keep improving what you’re doing and being a better business and a year from now imagine where you could be.”

Charley Burtwistle:

I know we’re getting close to time here, so I’ll get a little bit into the nitty-gritty of just what these offerings are because you alluded to it a bit, is the standard out of the box reports. They come in a BI platform that you directly have access to, that’s branded for you. It’s your data, it’s your reports, and then you have, as I mentioned, the ability to edit and tweak those and customize them specifically towards your business. That’s called Buildertrend Analytics. We also have a data flow, which is if you already have a BI tool or you already have your in-house analytics team, and you just want access to your data, we can populate it inside of a bucket for you to actually go in and pull into your system, so you don’t have to purchase the entire BI platform if you already have your own in-house things.

We also offer, which I’m really excited about, just data consulting. So, we have in-house data scientists that are working with literally hundreds of builders setting KPIs, understanding what things they want to improve on, what problems they’re trying to solve, and how to measure those. If you just want to talk to a data scientist, we will help guide that conversation and ensure that you’re finding value across your data and that it is in parallel with what the industry is doing as a whole. So, your call earlier for if you haven’t reached out to your account manager for a while, reach out.

Zach Wojtowicz:

You never know what we’ve got cooking.

Charley Burtwistle:

Have that conversation. Build up that relationship because we’re going to continue to push and ensure that you’re continuing to find value. And if you’re looking for a great icebreaker and segue into reaching back out, ask about Buildertrend Business Insights because it is something that we’re seeing gain a ton of traction and a ton of customers are signing up for and finding success with. And we want to ensure that all of our customers across any industry, any continent, everywhere, have access to their metrics and ensure that they are able to monitor how their business is performing.

Zach Wojtowicz:

I love it. Well, I think that about covers it.

Charley Burtwistle:

Yeah, we went a little long, but not too bad. The over under I had set in my head was like 45 minutes, which I knew was going to be way too long. But we’re coming in a little under that.

Zach Wojtowicz:

You think they’ll let us join the alumni club of …?

Charley Burtwistle:

No, I think this is probably our one shot.

Zach Wojtowicz:

This is the one shot. All right. Well, if you love Charley and I riffing and talking about things that we’re working on, please let us know in all of our social platforms, we need a campaign to let Zach and Charley just talk into the wind.

Charley Burtwistle:

When you reach out to your account manager, say, “Hey, I heard on ‘The Building Code’ that I should be doing this.”

Zach Wojtowicz:

Let’s get some referrals going on here. We need that. We really appreciate you listening. Hopefully it gave you some insight of what we’re doing internally and just in general about customer experience and other areas and what we’re cooking at Buildertrend. It was a lot of fun for us. This is “The Building Code.” I’m Zach Wojtowicz.

Charley Burtwistle:

And I’m Charley Burtwistle.

Zach Wojtowicz:

We’ll catch you next time.

Zach Wojtowicz & Charley Burtwistle | Buildertrend


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